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Could large-scale amphibious landings happen again?

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NateW

I’ve been rewatching a lot of WWII docs and reading about Normandy, Inchon, and the Cold War era “over-the-beach” planning, and it made me wonder: could we ever see a truly large-scale amphibious landing again? I don’t mean a small raid or a limited beach insertion—more like tens of thousands of troops, lots of ships, sustained waves, and a full lodgment under fire.

With modern coastal defense missiles, mines, satellites, and especially drones, it feels like the beach approach is more transparent than ever. But then I also see modern forces still investing in amphib ships, Marines, landing craft, and prepositioning. So is it still a realistic option, just harder and rarer? Or has the risk gotten so high that it’s basically off the table except against very weak opponents?

Curious how people here think about it—historical precedent, current doctrine, and what a modern “D-Day” would even look like.

Cal

“Large-scale amphibious landing” has always been a wager, not a routine method. Even the famous successes were built on massive deception, air/naval supremacy, logistics miracles, and an enemy already stretched.

Historically, the common thread is: you don’t do it unless other options are worse. Normandy worked because the Allies could isolate the battlespace (air campaign, ULTRA, deception like Fortitude), suppress coastal defenses, and then sustain the lodgment. Inchon worked because of operational surprise, tides, and a political-military gamble MacArthur pushed through.

During the Cold War, NATO and the USSR planned big landings, but many war games and studies effectively treated them as feasible only with escalation (including heavy air/naval attrition and potentially nuclear overhang). Modern ISR makes “surprise” harder, but not impossible—deception now means cyber, EMCON, decoys, and misdirection across multiple domains.

So yes, it could happen again, but likely only when a coalition has overwhelming air-sea control and can suppress coastal fires long enough to build combat power ashore. Otherwise you’ll see smaller lodgments, multiple dispersed landings, and “amphibious” used more as a threat to fix enemy forces than as the main blow.

Brody

From the equipment angle, the “classic” beach storming image is kind of outdated. A modern large landing would be way more about protected mobility, comms, and sustainment than guys running in a straight line.

What changed: optics/thermal everywhere, cheap drones spotting, loitering munitions, and precision artillery. That pushes forces toward better concealment (smoke, multispectral camo nets), better counter-drone kits, and lots of distributed supplies (more small caches vs one big pile).

I’d expect more emphasis on: armored amphib vehicles, lighter load plans, robust radio discipline, and medical evacuation planning. Even mundane stuff matters—boots that handle wet-to-dry transitions, waterproofing, and ruck choices that don’t destroy your back on sand and sea walls.

Could it happen? Maybe, but it won’t look like 1944. It’d look like a combined-arms logistics problem with a heavy counter-drone/counter-sensor layer.

Eli

I wasn’t in an amphib unit, but I did enough joint training to say this: planners still take it seriously, but they’re not romantic about it. Beaches are just terrain, and the sea approach is unforgiving.

The biggest thing people underestimate is sustainment. Getting a first wave in is one thing; keeping them fed, fueled, and supplied while the enemy is actively targeting ports, ships, and staging areas is the real fight.

In training, the “answer” was usually to reduce predictability: multiple landing sites, time windows, heavy deception, and lots of rehearsal. And you assume comms get messy. If a force can’t operate with degraded comms and still execute, it’ll fall apart fast.

So yes it can happen, but only if the force accepts losses, trains hard, and has the joint backing to suppress coastal threats long enough to build momentum.

Jax

People keep declaring amphibious assault “obsolete” like it’s a tech blog hot take. It’s not obsolete—it's just brutally expensive and requires dominance. That was true in 1944 too.

If you don’t have air superiority and you can’t kill coastal missile batteries, then of course it’s suicide. But that’s not an argument against amphibious ops, that’s an argument against trying anything major without shaping the battlefield.

Also, everyone acts like drones magically erase fog of war. Drones help, sure—until weather, jamming, deception, and attrition kick in. The side with better EW and targeting will blind the other.

The real question isn’t “could it happen,” it’s “who has the competence and mass to pull it off.” Not many do. But stop pretending the ocean is some impenetrable wall just because Twitter loves missiles.

Tori

If a large amphibious landing happens again, drones will be central on both sides. The beachhead fight becomes a sensor-and-strike contest.

Attackers will need: persistent ISR (small quadcopters, fixed-wing VTOL), counter-UAS (jammers, kinetic, directed-energy where available), and lots of autonomous decoys to saturate enemy sensors. Defenders will use cheap FPV swarms for last-mile strikes on landing craft, vehicles, and logistics nodes.

The big shift is time-to-target. In WWII you might get spotted and still have minutes/hours before fires concentrate. Now it can be “spotted → coordinates → munition inbound” very fast.

So “large-scale” is still possible, but the doctrine trend is toward distributed landings, fast dispersion ashore, and rapid establishment of an air-defense and EW umbrella. Without that umbrella, your beach becomes a drone hunting ground.

Mason

A true large landing lives or dies on getting protected mobility ashore quickly. Light infantry can seize a strip of sand, but they can’t survive long if the defender brings armor and massed artillery.

Modern twist: you need amphibious/over-the-shore platforms that can deliver IFVs/APCs and engineering assets early. If your first 24 hours ashore are mostly soft-skinned vehicles and foot-mobile troops, you’re extremely vulnerable to counterattacks and drone-directed fires.

Once ashore, the decisive part looks like any mechanized fight: establish an armored screen, push out to defensible terrain, secure routes for supply, and protect logistics. I’d expect attackers to prioritize getting air defense, EW vehicles, and recovery vehicles on the beach almost as urgently as tanks.

So yes, but only with a plan to transition quickly from “amphibious” to “mechanized breakout.” Otherwise it’s a static target.

Grant

From the naval side, a large amphibious landing is basically the most demanding combined-arms naval operation there is. You need sea control, local air defense, mine countermeasures, and continuous logistics flow—all while operating close to shore.

The hardest problems today: anti-ship missiles, mines (still a nightmare), and targeting from shore-based sensors. That means a modern assault likely starts long before the first landing craft: degrading coastal radars, hunting mobile missile launchers, clearing lanes, and running layered air/missile defense for the amphib group.

Another constraint is ship numbers and capacity. WWII-scale lift doesn’t exist in most fleets today, and amphib ships are high-value assets. So even if the political decision is made, the force generation piece is slower and more limited.

Could it happen again? Yes, but likely as a coalition effort with intense shaping fires, and probably aimed at seizing a port/airfield quickly rather than days of open-beach sustainment.

Riley

A modern “D-Day” is really an air campaign question. If the attacker can’t gain at least local air superiority and suppress air defenses, the ships and landing craft become targets.

Airpower roles would be stacked: SEAD/DEAD against SAMs, strikes on coastal missile batteries and artillery, ISR to track mobile launchers, and constant CAP to keep enemy aircraft away. Helicopters add another layer—air assault can bypass the beach, but only if the air defense threat is manageable.

The other factor is tankers and basing. Sustained sorties require access to nearby airfields or carriers plus tanker support. If basing is politically constrained or threatened, sortie rates fall.

So yes it’s possible, but it would likely look like: weeks of shaping + sudden short window where the defender is suppressed enough to allow the landing.

Keenan

If you’re asking partly because you’re interested in joining a unit that does this: amphib and expeditionary forces still exist and train for it, even if the “big one” is rare.

In practice, modern militaries prepare people for a range of missions—humanitarian evacuations, securing ports, raiding, forward presence—because those happen more often than a full-scale contested landing.

If you’re early in the process, focus on the basics that actually carry over: fitness (rucking, swimming competence where relevant, injury prevention), teamwork, and learning how logistics and communications shape operations.

And if you want a realistic picture, talk to a recruiter or service liaison for current requirements and pipelines—online info gets outdated fast.

Owen

I think the “large-scale landing” would be enabled by small units first. Not in a movie way, but in a practical shaping way: reconnaissance of beaches/approaches, locating coastal fires, setting conditions for bigger forces.

Modern SOF can contribute with ISR, target marking, and coordination with naval/air fires—plus unconventional approaches like hydrographic recon or working with partner forces. But they don’t replace the mass needed to hold ground.

If anything, SOF makes it more plausible by helping reduce uncertainty: identifying minefields, confirming enemy dispositions, and enabling deception.

So: SOF can open doors, but the main event still needs conventional lift, air cover, engineers, and sustainment.

Sawyer

On the ground level, amphibious landings are brutal for simple reasons: you arrive wet, tired, overloaded, and often disoriented. Even without enemy fire, that’s an injury and failure recipe.

In a modern contested environment, fieldcraft matters fast: concealment after landing, rapid establishment of covered positions, managing light/noise discipline, and protecting water and batteries from salt and sand.

Also, the basics of navigation and rally points become critical when comms are degraded. People assume GPS solves everything; jamming and dead batteries happen.

So could big landings happen? Yes, but success would hinge on disciplined small-unit routines, not just high-end weapons.

Drew

Strategically, large-scale amphibious landings happen when political objectives demand physical control of territory and when escalation risks are acceptable. That’s a narrow set of cases.

In many modern conflicts, states can achieve goals through blockade, long-range strikes, proxy forces, or incremental advances that avoid the enormous political cost of a high-casualty landing. Public tolerance and alliance cohesion matter.

Intelligence and targeting also cut both ways: the attacker may have better awareness, but the defender can prepare narratives, mobilize reserves, and concentrate fires on predictable approaches.

So I’d say: possible, but the threshold is higher. The more contested the theater and the more peer-level the opponent, the more likely you see coercion and denial strategies instead of a massive beach assault.

Hayden

Engineers are the unglamorous center of this question. A large amphibious landing is essentially a construction project under fire.

You need to: breach obstacles, clear mines, create trafficable exits off the beach, establish fuel/water distribution, build temporary hardstands, and eventually open a port or create an offshore sustainment system. If you can’t move tonnage ashore reliably, the landing stalls.

Modern defenders will target chokepoints: beach exits, causeways, bridging sites, and logistics dumps. That forces the attacker to build redundancy—multiple exits, alternate supply points, rapid repair capability, and deception.

So yes, but it would hinge on engineering capacity and logistics resilience more than the first-wave heroics.

NoahB

I’m still learning this stuff, but I’m confused on one point: if missiles and drones make the coast so dangerous, why do countries still build amphibious ships?

Is it because they expect to land only after the enemy is already beaten down? Or because it’s useful for disaster relief and evacuations even if a big contested landing is unlikely?

Also, are there examples since WWII that count as “large-scale,” or is Normandy basically the last true version?

Vince

In most realistic scenarios, a “large-scale amphibious landing” becomes viable only after a shaping phase achieves temporary local superiority across multiple domains.

If I were modeling it, I’d look at a few gating requirements: (1) suppress coastal anti-ship and artillery fires, (2) clear mines/obstacles fast enough to keep throughput, (3) protect the logistics tail from drones and missiles, and (4) establish an air-defense bubble ashore within hours, not days.

I’d also expect the attacker to avoid a single Normandy-style focal point. More likely: several dispersed lodgments plus airborne/heliborne seizures of key terrain and routes, followed by rapid mechanized push to a port.

So yes, it can happen, but the “mass on one beach” image is probably replaced by “mass across a coastal sector with deception and rapid dispersion.”

Quinn

Robotics makes amphib ops more plausible in one sense: you can push risk forward. Unmanned surface vessels for decoying and mine reconnaissance, UGVs for breaching and supply runs across the beach, and autonomous sensors to build a picture without exposing as many troops.

Where I think it matters most is the first 6–12 hours: robotic mine-clearing, remote obstacle demolition, and unmanned resupply shuttles can reduce the bottleneck and keep humans from clustering in obvious kill zones.

Exoskeleton hype is mostly noise today, but powered load-assist and better small robots for carrying ammo/water could help the “wet, heavy, exhausted” problem after landing.

Net: robots won’t make it easy, but they can make it less fragile by reducing exposure and increasing tempo in the most dangerous phase.