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Can average soldiers become special forces operators?

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MasonK

I’m an active-duty regular line unit guy (not combat arms elite, just a normal soldier) and I keep hearing two totally different takes.

One side says special forces are basically “born different” and if you’re not already a top performer from day one, you’ll never make it. The other side says plenty of average soldiers become special forces operators if they commit, get in shape, and learn the right habits.

I’m not trying to romanticize it. I’m trying to figure out if it’s realistic to aim for special operations selection in the next 12–18 months while still doing my normal job. I’m decent at PT but not a freak athlete, and I’m more consistent than naturally talented.

So… can an “average” soldier actually become a special forces operator? What separates the people who make it from the people who don’t (besides genetics)?

Grant

“Average” is a slippery word in military history. Many of the units we now mythologize were built by taking ordinary troops and applying uncommon standards.

If you look at the origins of modern special operations—British Commandos (1940), the SAS (1941), US Army Rangers (WWII), and later Cold War-era special mission units—selection was designed to filter for resilience, judgment, and trainability, not just raw athleticism. David Stirling’s early SAS recruiting drew from volunteers who weren’t all obvious supermen; what mattered was who could keep functioning when sleep-deprived, cold, and under constant uncertainty.

WWII studies and memoirs repeatedly emphasize the same traits: self-discipline, small-team reliability, and initiative. The “born different” line is often retrospective mythmaking. Even in ancient warfare, elite formations (e.g., Roman legionary veterans, not just the Praetorians) became elite through repetition, standards, and leadership.

That said, the modern selection pipeline is a bureaucratic and physical gate as well as a psychological one. You can become special operations-caliber if you can: (1) meet objective entry requirements, (2) avoid injuries, (3) keep learning, (4) stay emotionally steady under stress. Not glamorous, but historically consistent.

If you want sources that capture the reality rather than legend: Ben Macintyre’s work on the SAS (narrative but well-sourced), and for selection mindset, look at broader military performance research (stress inoculation and small-unit cohesion) rather than “operator lore.”

Cole

A lot of “average vs elite” is just preparation quality and durability. Gear won’t get you selected, but the wrong setup can quietly sabotage training.

If you’ve got 12–18 months, build a boring, repeatable system:

- Footwear: rotate two pairs of proven boots and one running shoe you trust. Don’t chase hype models right before events.

- Ruck: fit matters more than brand. Dial shoulder straps, hip belt, and load placement so you’re not wrecking your lower back.

- Socks/foot care: this is selection-adjacent reality. Blisters and hot spots turn “average” into “DNF” fast.

- Clothing: avoid experimenting on long movements—use what you know doesn’t chafe.

Also: stop thinking “freak athlete.” Lots of candidates are just consistent. The guys who look superhuman are often just the ones who’ve been training smart for years and don’t miss sessions.

If you do anything gear-wise: get fitted properly, learn to pack your ruck the same way every time, and practice hydration/fueling (not extreme, just sensible). And if your unit has someone experienced with rucking, have them check your fit before you start piling on miles.

Riley

I’ve seen “average” soldiers get selected and I’ve seen studs fail. The difference was usually not heart—it was preparation, discipline, and not doing dumb stuff.

A few practical realities from the training side:

- Consistency beats hero workouts. If you’re solid 5–6 days a week without breaking, you’ll pass more gates than the guy who smokes one session then gets hurt.

- Be coachable. Cadre can tell who takes feedback and who argues with reality.

- Team attitude matters. Don’t be the loud motivator guy and don’t be the silent lone wolf either—just be reliable.

- Sleep, recovery, and injury prevention are part of the job. Candidates love to ignore that until they’re on profile.

If you’re aiming 12–18 months, that’s actually reasonable if your basics are there and you’re honest about weak points (rucking, water confidence if applicable, upper body endurance, etc.). Use legit resources: talk to your chain of command, unit training NCO, or someone who’s been through the pipeline. And don’t self-select out because you weren’t “born special.”

Jax

The “born different” crowd loves excuses because it lets them feel wise while doing nothing.

Can average soldiers become special forces operators? Yes—if by “average” you mean normal humans who decide to stop being average at the things selection tests.

But here’s the part people dodge: selection doesn’t care about your intentions or your Instagram mindset. It cares whether you show up ready. If you’re “decent at PT” but you fold under pressure, can’t navigate, can’t carry a load without falling apart, or you’re the guy everyone avoids in the team room—then no, you won’t make it.

Also, quit thinking 12–18 months is some magic window. It’s enough time to get very fit and very competent, or it’s enough time to spin your wheels. Most failures I’ve watched (from the sidelines and through friends) weren’t “genetics.” They were ego, poor planning, and injury from stupid training.

So pick a standard, measure yourself honestly, and train like an adult. If you want comforting answers, ask someone selling a program.

Drew

One angle people miss: “operator” is increasingly a blend of physical selection and technical aptitude. Modern special operations teams lean on ISR, small UAS, electronic warfare awareness, digital targeting workflows, and communications discipline.

That doesn’t mean you can nerd your way past the physical gates—selection still demands endurance and stress performance. But an “average” soldier who becomes exceptional at:

- basic data literacy (maps, grids, digital mission products),

- UAS employment at the small-unit level (where authorized and trained),

- signature management and counter-UAS awareness,

- radios and troubleshooting under pressure,

…can be far more valuable than a pure athlete who can’t think.

If you’re planning 12–18 months, build your physical base but also level up your soldier systems competence: land nav, comms, reporting, and an eye for how teams integrate ISR. The future battlefield is noisy, observed, and fast—being calm and methodical is a competitive advantage.

Ethan

Coming from the mech world: plenty of “average” troops turn into top performers once they’re in a culture with higher standards and better feedback loops.

Special operations selection is the extreme end of that. Think of it like taking a crewman who’s okay at gunnery and then putting them through a demanding table progression with relentless after-action reviews—some improve massively, some don’t.

What I’ve noticed in any high-performance military niche:

- Attention to detail: packing, maintenance, time hacks, admin. Sloppy people bleed time and energy.

- Calm under friction: when something breaks at 0200, do you problem-solve or panic?

- Coachability and humility: you can’t brute-force competence.

Physical standards are non-negotiable, but “average” in a line unit doesn’t tell me much. Some units don’t push ruck/navi/fieldcraft hard. If you systematically develop those skills, you’re no longer average in the areas selection actually measures.

Noah

From a naval perspective, the question resembles whether an average sailor can become a high-end submarine or special warfare type: the baseline job performance is only the entry point. The real separator is reliability under sustained pressure and the ability to learn quickly.

Naval history shows that elite capabilities are often created by pipeline design and unit culture. Carrier aviation, submarine service, and special operations all rely on selection and training that compresses stress, complexity, and accountability.

So yes, an average service member can become special operations-caliber if they can demonstrate:

- sustained performance (not just peak days),

- sound judgment when tired and overloaded,

- teamwork in small, professional groups,

- and a clean record of discipline.

One caution: the “operator” goal can tempt people into reckless self-training. In the maritime world we preach risk management because one injury or one poor decision can end a track. Apply that same mindset to your preparation and use official guidance whenever available.

Troy

In aviation terms, this is like asking if an average flyer can make it to a weapons school or a demanding rotary-wing unit. The answer is yes, but the pathway is structured: fundamentals, repetition, and performance under checkride conditions.

Selection is basically a series of “checkrides” while fatigued: can you execute basics (movement, nav, problem solving) when your body is smoked and your brain is loud?

A practical tip: train your “procedures,” not just your engine. For example:

- show up early, have your kit squared away every time,

- practice route planning and navigation like it’s a flight plan,

- get comfortable being evaluated without getting emotional.

The candidates who look naturally gifted often just have better procedures and stress control. If you can make your basics automatic, you’ll have more mental bandwidth when it matters.

Avery

Yes—average soldiers become special forces operators, but they do it by becoming above-average on the specific selection criteria.

A clean way to think about it:

1) Eligibility: rank/time-in-service, citizenship/security requirements, medical readiness, disciplinary record. Talk to your career counselor/chain of command and verify you actually qualify.

2) Physical gates: not just cardio—rucking tolerance, muscular endurance, and staying uninjured. Build progressively.

3) Skills: land navigation, water confidence (if applicable), small-unit basics, and following instructions precisely.

4) Professional traits: punctuality, composure, teamwork, humility.

If you’re aiming for 12–18 months, that’s a solid runway. Start by getting the official standards and prep guidance for your specific program (they differ by country and unit). If your installation has a selection prep course or mentorship program, use it. Also consider speaking with a qualified strength/conditioning coach familiar with military prep to avoid overuse injuries.

Blake

“Average soldier” is common in every country’s SF recruiting pool. The myth is that all operators were phenoms in their first unit. Reality: many were just reliable troops who decided to chase a harder standard.

Across big-name units (SAS/SBS, US SF/SEALs, Delta selection pipelines, GIGN/RAID, various European SOF), the recurring themes are:

- Selection is as much about attitude and judgment as it is about fitness.

- Land nav and field endurance break people who only trained gym numbers.

- Ego kills: the guys who try to “win” every event often burn out or become team liabilities.

- Consistency and injury management matter more than any one PR.

Also, “operator” means different things. Some units are more direct action-heavy, some are more long-range reconnaissance, some are foreign internal defense-focused. Your preparation should match the target pipeline.

If you’re serious, pick the specific program, study the official standards, and talk to people who’ve actually been through that exact selection. Generic advice helps, but specifics win.

Wes

If you can be calm, competent, and self-sufficient in the field, you’re already ahead of a lot of “strong” candidates.

Selection and the follow-on training tend to punish:

- poor navigation habits,

- bad feet management,

- inability to regulate temperature/hydration,

- sloppy packing and constant gear loss,

- and mental spiraling when plans change.

An average soldier can absolutely become an operator if they build fieldcraft like a daily skill:

- practice map/compass basics and route planning,

- get comfortable moving for hours at a steady pace,

- learn simple systems for staying dry/warm and keeping your kit organized.

None of that is secret-squirrel. It’s just professionalism outdoors. And if you’re training solo, stay safe—don’t do risky night movements or remote routes without a plan, because an injury or bad situation can end your goal fast.

Jordan

At a strategic level, special operations forces expanded in many countries because modern conflicts demand small teams that can operate politically and informationally, not just physically.

So “can average soldiers become operators” depends partly on whether they can operate in ambiguity. The people who succeed tend to:

- communicate clearly and professionally,

- handle sensitive tasks without drama,

- show discretion and maturity,

- and understand the mission context rather than chasing thrills.

Selection is one filter, but so are background checks, command recommendations, and track record. If you want to make this realistic, invest in being a consistently trusted soldier now—reputation travels.

Also remember the macro reality: SOF isn’t a personal achievement program; it’s a national capability shaped by budgets, policy, and operational demand. The “operator mindset” includes patience with bureaucracy and long timelines.

Casey

From an engineer/logistics lens, “average” often means “not yet optimized.” Selection pipelines reward candidates who can manage resources: time, energy, and equipment.

Practical separators I’ve seen across demanding schools:

- Planning: do you prepare your kit, routes, and admin early, or are you always reacting?

- Load management: can you pack efficiently and carry what you need without constant rework?

- Process discipline: small mistakes compound under fatigue.

If you’re training while doing your normal job, your biggest advantage is routine. Build a sustainable schedule, progress gradually, and keep a simple tracking system (mileage, ruck weight, sleep, soreness). That’s not sexy, but it’s how you avoid overuse injuries and show up ready.

And remember: SOF teams rely heavily on support and enablers too. Even if selection doesn’t work out, the skills you build—fitness, nav, field competence—will still make you more effective.

Logan

I’m not in yet, just learning, but this thread is helpful. When people say “average,” do they mean like average PT scores, or average motivation?

For those who’ve been around it: what’s the one thing you wish you fixed earlier before trying out—running, rucking, or land nav? And is it better to focus on one weakness at a time or try to improve everything together?

Also, does your current unit MOS matter a lot, or is selection pretty fair to anyone who meets the requirements?

Quinn

Think of selection like a multi-domain stress test. “Average” can pass if they raise the floor, not just the ceiling.

In simulations and force design, the best teams aren’t built from one superstar; they’re built from members with high minimum competence and low variance under stress. Selection is basically hunting for low variance: you perform reliably when cold, tired, and uncertain.

So the recipe is:

- build a big aerobic base (so stress doesn’t spike instantly),

- add progressive load carriage,

- add problem-solving under fatigue (nav, tasks, time pressure),

- and develop emotional control.

If you do that over 12–18 months, you’re no longer “average” in the way that matters. You’re predictable—and predictability is gold in small teams where one person’s collapse can cascade into mission failure.

Zane

One more reason “average” can become “operator”: tech is changing what elite performance looks like. Teams increasingly integrate unmanned ground systems, small robots for recon, counter-IED tools, sensors, and networked comms.

That doesn’t replace physical selection, but it does widen the value profile. The operator of the near future is often:

- physically resilient enough to move and fight,

- technically fluent enough to employ and troubleshoot systems,

- and disciplined enough to manage signatures (EM, thermal, visual).

If you’re prepping now, don’t ignore the technical side: learn to be the person who can keep comms working, understand basic EW/counter-UAS concepts at a high level, and adapt quickly to new gear. Pair that with the unglamorous fundamentals everyone is mentioning, and “average” becomes very competitive.